Request to add Ironman functionality / NPC shop unlocks

[scallyswags]

Hey, @CodePanter!

I've been working on basically an Ironman version of Bronzeman (https://github.com/scallyswags/shop-unlocks), where players are prevented from purchasing items from NPC until they unlock them by obtaining them another way. I felt it was different enough in scope (Ironman vs. main, NPC shops vs. GE) to warrant its own plugin, but the Plugin Hub maintainers don't feel it's different enough from Bronzeman (runelite/plugin-hub#9393) and feel it should be a feature of Bronzeman instead.

Is an Ironman mode (Steelman Mode?) something you would ever consider? I was trying to get the basic architecture of my plugin down, but it essentially just adds items to an unlock list once they enter the inventory and then listens for clicks inside a shop container, blocking them if the item does not exist in the unlocked items list. If this was something you'd consider adding, I'd be happy to help in any way possible. If not, I totally get that as well - just thought I'd ask.

Thanks!

[CodePanter]

Hello! It seems a lot of things are happening in the world of the bronzeman mode; and the plugin hub maintainers have reached their limit on how many different versions of the same project they are willing to have in the hub. Currently someone by the name of @elertan is working on a full rewrite of all the group and regular bronzeman plugins, and Runelite is strongly recommending all the current plugin owners to have a chat and see how we can work together. (this is his pull request here: runelite/plugin-hub#9396 )

I haven't gotten around to really looking into this myself; but I think before any big new features are considered for my plugin, I think we should figure out which of these plugins will exist in the long run, and whether that one might not be able to be one fully feature complete plugin without 5 alternatives in the hub.

[elertan]

Hey, @CodePanter!

I've been working on basically an Ironman version of Bronzeman (https://github.com/scallyswags/shop-unlocks), where players are prevented from purchasing items from NPC until they unlock them by obtaining them another way. I felt it was different enough in scope (Ironman vs. main, NPC shops vs. GE) to warrant its own plugin, but the Plugin Hub maintainers don't feel it's different enough from Bronzeman (runelite/plugin-hub#9393) and feel it should be a feature of Bronzeman instead.

Is an Ironman mode (Steelman Mode?) something you would ever consider? I was trying to get the basic architecture of my plugin down, but it essentially just adds items to an unlock list once they enter the inventory and then listens for clicks inside a shop container, blocking them if the item does not exist in the unlocked items list. If this was something you'd consider adding, I'd be happy to help in any way possible. If not, I totally get that as well - just thought I'd ask.

Thanks!

Hi @scallyswags ! The bronzeman implementation I've been working on allows the player to configure their own set of rules they want to restrict themselves to. This sounds like a fun way to enhance gameplay as well. We could easily add another rule to restrict shop usage when an item is not yet unlocked to Bronzeman Unleashed. Feel free to check the project out!

Just to note: the game has lots of different shops. Adding this to shopmain (which covers like 95% of all shops) would be really easy. But doing so for all other shops might take a bit more time, especially to test.

[scallyswags]

@CodePanter It's awesome to see how many people are interested in playing with item restrictions and I'm glad to see you're still active here because it seems like it's just you as far as Bronzeman plugins go. I've been playing this way for a few months now, and it's led to some really fun grinds.

@elertan I'll definitely check out Bronzeman Unleashed tonight! I think the allowing players to create their own rules is a great route to go, and opens Bronzeman up to more than just mains. I hadn't yet run into a shop that my plugin didn't target, but I assume I eventually would. I'm sure OSRS spaghetti code results in a few shops being treated differently. I appreciate your consideration on this!

[elertan]

@CodePanter It's awesome to see how many people are interested in playing with item restrictions and I'm glad to see you're still active here because it seems like it's just you as far as Bronzeman plugins go. I've been playing this way for a few months now, and it's led to some really fun grinds.

@elertan I'll definitely check out Bronzeman Unleashed tonight! I think the allowing players to create their own rules is a great route to go, and opens Bronzeman up to more than just mains. I hadn't yet run into a shop that my plugin didn't target, but I assume I eventually would. I'm sure OSRS spaghetti code results in a few shops being treated differently. I appreciate your consideration on this!

It's mostly on points shops, such as the LMS rewards shop. That probably won't be an issue for what you are trying to restrict. But Bronzeman Unleashed itself provides a small checkmark indicator for unlocked items. Adding these too point shops is a large undertaking.

[elertan]

@scallyswags

Also, I'm trying to get approval from the RuneLite plugin hub maintainers to get Bronzeman Unleashed to be listed. If you think Bronzeman Unleashed would be a good way to also introduce NPC shop unlocks, would you be open to the idea of contributing/maintaining Bronzeman Unleashed?

The reason I'm asking is because the RuneLite plugin hub maintainers specifically mentioned two reasons why the plugin itself is not yet listed.
First of all it being similar to the other three options, and them not wanting to have too many plugins that do essentially the same thing.
But there's also the fact that having plugins with less maintainers will increase the likelyhood of it being abandoned or updated regularly.

For example @tugglicious was also contributing to the space and has started helping out with Bronzeman Unleashed (see #31).
If you would also be open to this we would have three maintainers, which will make it more likely to being listed and maintained.

If you have any questions or just want to discuss things, feel free to add me on discord: elertan

Thanks!

[scallyswags]

@elertan I am completely new to plugins and Java, but I would definitely be happy to discuss this and contribute where possible. My Discord username is "scallyswags." with a period. Feel free to message me there!