Expression text in grand staff does not offset above cresc. and decresc.

[IIINekoIII]

Issue type

UX/Interaction bug (incorrect behaviour)

Description with steps to reproduce

Using a grand staff instrument ie. Grand Piano,
Write a line of music in both staffs
Add a dynamic at the start of M1 and M2
Add a Cresc or decres over bar 1 into count 1 of bar 2
Add Expression text to beat 1 of M1
Incorrect behavior for placement. Should not move the Cresc or decresc but rather offset the grand staff for that line of music on the page and have the expression text above the cresc.
So offset from dynamic markings to the right, then offset up for hair pins.
The best way to implement this would be, let us be able to select if we want it in the center with the dynamics, above as per my earlier description, or below, if wanted. This can be implemented into the properties menu. This fix for behavior would go very far for cleaning up grand staff notation.

As of now, I don't believe MS4 can handle this use case. This is labeled as bug because expression text is an already an in place system.

Supporting files, videos and screenshots

Bar of MS4 that has this issue,

Bar of notation found online with correct placement for expression text.

In which versions of MuseScore Studio is this issue present?

4.7.4

Regression

I was unable to check

Operating system

Windows 10, presumed to be all current versions of MS4.7.4

Additional context

Conductors are very picky on how scores look. If this can be addressed as a simple implementation and pushed out to users, I would really appreciate it!

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[IIINekoIII]

Any questions or concerns, please reach out.

[stevage]

The issue seems specifically caused by the expression text being linked to the same note as the hairpin. Maybe you know this, but it seems you can workaround by linking it to a different note and adjusting.

[IINekoII]

Insert Jank man!

[GabeS573]

You can also use staff text instead of expression text to mitigate this behavior. I don't think the current placement of the expression text is "wrong," simply different than what you want for your purposes; I use the current way expression text gets positioned to add "molto" or "poco" before a hairpin. If anything, this should probably become a toggle in Properties (between the old and new positioning) rather than a hard change

[IIINekoIII]

I think the default should be that expression text should respect dynamic markings (Ie. hairpins) with the option in properties to insert it where you'd like it. Clarity should be first and foremost. Where that hairpin starts and ends should therefore be clear. Otherwise performance notes may be needed.