Add Translate extension to Wiki #568

lectrician1 · 2023-02-05T18:14:37Z

This adds the Translate extension to the Wiki.

All other extension dependencies have already been installed so no other extensions are added as part of this request.

User rights and the new role of "translateadmin" have been configured according to the original proposal.

The OSM ElasticSearch server will now be utilized for storing translation memories.

Closes openstreetmap/operations#649

lectrician1 · 2023-07-29T20:53:11Z

Could someone please review this? It has been over a year since the proposal passed to add this.

Firefishy · 2023-07-30T02:39:44Z

Can you tell me what functionality this introduces?

lectrician1 · 2023-07-30T14:16:27Z

@Firefishy Please see the proposal for an in-depth description about what functionality it offers.

lectrician1 · 2023-08-09T17:02:33Z

So... update?

Firefishy · 2023-08-09T17:06:04Z

Will you be around when this causes the wiki to break or block upgrades? This is a fairly deep plugin. I am not comfortable supporting it on my own.

lectrician1 · 2023-08-09T17:10:06Z

I will be. Honestly I have not tested this PR with the current Wiki stack since I don't have chef setup or anything and don't really know how to set it up. I guess creating that docker container for the wiki which has been something I've wanted to do we might think of doing before this as well to test it (openstreetmap/operations#873).

pnorman · 2023-08-10T12:55:04Z

If we install it and then have to remove it in a couple months, what are the consequences? What's the uninstall procedure?

lectrician1 · 2023-08-12T00:50:02Z

@pnorman All the pages created as "translated" pages will just be kept in normal page form. For example, Key:Highway and its Spanish translation produced by the Translate extension at Key:Highway/es will become normal pages at Key:Highway and Key:Highway/es. We will need to add the {{Languages}} template to those pages but that should be pretty easy to automate.

lens0021 · 2024-05-12T15:26:14Z

cookbooks/wiki/templates/default/mw-ext-Translate.inc.php.erb

+$wgTranslateTranslationServices['TTMServer'] = array(
+        'type' => 'ttmserver',
+        'class' => 'ElasticSearchTTMServer',
+        'cutoff' => 0.75,
+        /*
+         * See http://elastica.io/getting-started/installation.html
+         * See https://github.com/ruflin/Elastica/blob/8.x/src/Client.php
+         */
+       'config' => [ 'servers' => [ 'host' => '127.0.0.1', 'port' => 9114 ] ]
+);


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$wgTranslateTranslationServices['TTMServer'] = array(

'type' => 'ttmserver',

'class' => 'ElasticSearchTTMServer',

'cutoff' => 0.75,

/*

* See http://elastica.io/getting-started/installation.html

* See https://github.com/ruflin/Elastica/blob/8.x/src/Client.php

*/

'config' => [ 'servers' => [ 'host' => '127.0.0.1', 'port' => 9114 ] ]

);

$wgTranslateTranslationServices['TTMServer'] = [

'type' => 'ttmserver',

'class' => 'ElasticSearchTTMServer',

'cutoff' => 0.75,

/*

* See http://elastica.io/getting-started/installation.html

* See https://github.com/ruflin/Elastica/blob/8.x/src/Client.php

*/

'config' => [ 'servers' => [ 'host' => '127.0.0.1', 'port' => 9114 ] ]

];

The mix use of old syntax and new syntax has slightly confused me :)

lens0021 · 2024-05-12T16:00:13Z

cookbooks/wiki/templates/default/mw-ext-Translate.inc.php.erb

+
+wfLoadExtension( 'Translate' );
+$wgGroupPermissions['user']['translate'] = true;
+$wgGroupPermissions['user']['skipcaptcha'] = true; // Bug 34182: needed with ConfirmEdit


Bugzilla 34182 is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36182

Though the bug, I am not sure if it is good to disable the captcha for all logged-in users.
In another perspective, does OSM wiki have ConfirmEdit enabled? (Is this line needed?)
Anyway, I think it would be good if 'autoconfirmed' is used than 'user'.

Yes we have ConfirmEdit installed using hcaptcha.

lens0021 · 2024-05-12T16:18:14Z

cookbooks/wiki/templates/default/mw-ext-Translate.inc.php.erb

+/**
+ * Add a preference "Do not send me email newsletters" in the email preferences.
+ */
+$wgTranslateNewsletterPreference = true;
+


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/**

* Add a preference "Do not send me email newsletters" in the email preferences.

*/

$wgTranslateNewsletterPreference = true;

This configuration variable removed in 2020. (MediaWiki 1.35)

wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Translate@1c43244
Bug: T134633

How exactly does a translation extension involve sending newsletters? If adding this extension is going to result is us sending bulk emails then we're going to need a clear understanding of what it will be doing and the legal/privacy implications...

You don't have to worry about it because the code does not exist anymore. It seems the configuration only provided a checkbox on the preference page. So maybe the publisher of the newsletter had manually sent mails? I don't know.

lens0021 · 2024-05-12T16:40:03Z

Honestly I have not tested this PR with the current Wiki stack since I don't have chef setup or anything and don't really know how to set it up.

@lectrician1 If you can, could you please take the time to test it with Chef?

If we install it and then have to remove it in a couple months, what are the consequences? What's the uninstall procedure?

@Nikerabbit I am sorry to mention you suddenly. Do you know what will happen if Translate extension is uninstalled? Are there any cases of this happened on any wiki?

Nikerabbit · 2024-05-13T17:03:17Z

Not to my knowledge. Main changes would be tags would displaying verbatim and all translations would become editable as normal pages.

lectrician1 · 2024-09-02T15:08:42Z

@lens0021 I do not have a local dev environment for the chef configuration. Is it that hard to setup? The configuration looks very osm-server specific.

Could someone else possibly test the configuration who has a running chef environment?

Firefishy · 2025-10-16T18:33:32Z

@1ec5 Do we want the Translate extension? I can revive this PR if yes.

1ec5 · 2025-10-17T05:34:20Z

Yes, I do think we want the Translate extension. For now the translation administrators would only enable it for stuff other than tag description pages.

@tomhughes seems to have adapted this PR for the test wiki in 0cd4d0d and bbb97ed. Unfortunately we hit an error in Special:SearchTranslations that hampered one of the key features, translation memory. It might have to do with WikibaseCirrusSearch (openstreetmap/operations#903), which is also being tested on the test wiki simultaneously. I don’t think Translate actually depends on WikibaseCirrusSearch; we just ended up testing both extensions in tandem.

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